greywash:

elder-lemon:

cameoamalthea:

tsuki-chibi:

whitmerule:

liz-squids:

pearlmaser:

elfwreck:

olderthannetfic:

unclutterme:

olderthannetfic:

I’m curious how many related deletions we can come up with.

• 2002 – FFN bans porn
• 2002 – FFN bans RPF
• 2004 – FFN bans script format
• 2005 – FFN bans CYOA, Readerfic, 2nd person, Songfic
• 2007 – Strikethrough, Boldthrough
• 2009 – GeoCities shuts down, taking old fannish websites
• 2010 – FFN forums deleted
• 2011 – Delicious destroyed by Yahoo’s incompetence
• 2012 – major FFN crackdown on porn
• 2014 – Quizilla shuts down
• 2015 – Journalfen’s servers become fully robust, deleting Fandom Wank

Didn’t quizilla have purges before finally shutting down? And I know basically every vidding home hot destroyed, repeatedly taking out the entire history of vidding online.

… they deleted Fandom Wank???

Well, not specifically. Journalfen failed completely and has never come back. FW was on Journalfen, so while you can see some entries on the Wayback machine, I think (?), the long comment threads aren’t archived.

• 2007 – Youtube starts using its “content ID” system to identify (and block) works that include copyrighted material in their database.
• 2009 – Greatestjournal shuts down, taking down fandom’s biggest collection of blog-style RPGs
• 2012 – Megaupload shut down by FBI; some (many?) fanvid archives lost

I thought there was also some kind of purge at Deviantart, but I don’t recall the details.

I’d like to remind folks that there was literally wank last month about why do we need the OTW.

Well, this would be why: we sincerely believed in the internet values of a decade or two ago, which involved owning our own servers if we wanted to see our projects remain stable, in the long term, online.

Worth mentioning: Yahoo purchased GeoCities, and was behind the decision to shut all those sites down. 

Yahoo’s incompetence destroyed Delicious.

Yahoo owns Tumblr.

1356: 50% of monks.

People just… completely forget. I was there for all of the bans on fanfiction.net. You don’t know panic until you go to log in one morning and find out a bunch of your works have been deleted, gone forever, because some asshole arbitrarily decided that they wanted to ban something.

AO3 IS IMPORTANT. IT MATTERS.

2016 -y!gallery an archive of m/m art and stories, original and fanfiction was completely destroyed and all works were lost

Y!gallery itself was originally built in response to Sheezy art banning adult themes in 2005

Deviant Art in my experience says it doesn’t allow porn but will allow erotic art of women to reach the front page, straight male gaze gets a pass. Art focused on men is more likely to get deleted.

A lot of things destroyed by anti-porn rules are really anti-porn not made by and for straight men. It’s women’s and queer folks work that is demonized.

^^^^^ i actually tested this when i was on DA. I drew a bunch of s*xually e*plicit vag*nas and d*cks and the d*cks were removed within 24 hours. the vag*nas were never reported.

these bans are attacks on women and queer/LGBTQ people. the straight male gaze is apparently the only legitimate n sfw view

You missed some:

• 1995 (and again in 2005) – Viacom/Paramount pursues the removal of all fan content/fan clubs from commercial third-party services acting as hosts.
• 1997 – Multiple hosters of The Simpsons, X-Files, and Star Trek fan content start getting targeted with C&D orders from Fox and Lucasfilm.
• 1998 – AOL TOSes X-Files fansites.
• 2000 – Harry Potter fansites get targeted by Warner Brothers.
• 2001 – Tripod purges a bunch of fansites, along with a lot of anti-Malaysian government content.
• 2006 (the year before Strikethrough/Boldthrough) – LJ is sold to Russian media company SUP, in part so the Kremlin can control LJ’s use by Russian political dissidents.
• 2009 – scans_daily, which was “originally founded as a place to revel in the slashy subtext of comics,” was TOSed from LJ for copyright infringement after a complaint from Marvel.
• 2010 ish (?) – deviantART purges adult fanfiction (I only very vaguely remember this one, because I’ve never been a dA user and it happened during my fannish hiatus, but there is some incomplete info on Fanlore. If you remember more about what happened, please help edit that page!)
• 2011 – Several female M/M slash writers arrested in China for depicting/promoting homosexuality, gore, and violence
• 2014 – Several more female M/M slash writers and archive hosts arrested in China for depicting/promoting homosexuality and sexually explicit material
  
• 2017 – Another high-profile female fic writer arrested in China for selling “illegally published works”
• 2018 – Tumblr deletes a number of fannish blogs containing photo edits for copyright infringement
• 2018 – Tumblr deletes a number of fannish blogs containing NSFW content
• 2018 – Article 13 of the EU copyright reform measure—which has serious and damaging implications for fannish content—passes the European Parliament [though it has not yet been enacted into law and if you are in the EU you can still call your MEPs and agitate to block it]

Fandom purges are almost never just about one thing. Fannish content both relies on fair use exemption and is frequently sexually explicit, so it gets attacked on both copyright/legal grounds (thank you, OTW Legal Team, for protecting us!) and TOS/hoster rules about porn/specific fictional content (thank you, AO3, for being an open archive!). On top of that, there is a nontrivial history of fannish content being lumped in with content that criticizes authoritarian governments, and targeted by sweeps by those governments and their censorship agencies when they purchase or put pressure on the commercial entities that own the servers (thank you, OTW, for being a nonprofit and owning and defending our servers!).

If you care about fannish content, you have to fight for fanfic on all three fronts. And if we hop off of HTTP and onto one of the decentralized protocols like dat et cetera, like people are starting to talk about in response to Article 13 and the Tumblr purges, we will inevitably be targeted along with a) people pirating media, b) porn distributors, and c) anti-government protestors, because those groups are also going use those protocols, too. I’m not saying, don’t think about migrating. I’m saying: there is a systemic problem within fandom, regarding the fact that we routinely get hit on three fronts: legal rights to the material we transform, sexual content, and governmental disapproval. Protecting fandom means fighting for fandom on all three fronts and putting thought and effort into how to make an archive robust against all three prongs of the attack.

This is what’s made AO3/the OTW so special: we have lawyers protecting our right to make what we make, we have a TOS that protects our right to make things that are sexually explicit, and because the OTW is a nonprofit, it’s more robust to the pressure that can be brought to bear upon commercial entities by both corporate and governmental powers (though, I note, especially when it comes to governments, it’s not immune, and we have to keep actively protecting it, and we have to protect other fans). If you are in fandom but you think that copyright upload filters are fine, because, well, you don’t want to put fanvids on YouTube, you are part of the problem. Your community is under attack. The powers that be have always come for us by attacking us in pieces, and we have always only ever successfully fought back by banding together.

olderglow:

this post will be updated as I find more websites to add! please check with the original before reblogging to see if there’s an updated version, and message me with corrections or more suggestions if you have them!!

websites in red have explicitly forbidden the posting of NSFW content. websites in orange allow certain types of NSFW content or have questionable / unclear guidelines.

for general use

• friendproject.net – built on myspace, great blog customization
• gab.ai – added for completeness, but has a huge alt-right + racism issue
• joinmastodon.org – basically like if twitter and discord had a child??
• mewe.com – privacy-focused, has groups and private messages
• minds.com – allows you to exchange traffic for being promoted (??)
• myspace.com – yes, it still exists, i’m just as surprised as you
• nibblebit.com – similar to tumblr with reblogs / likes / customizing of blogs
• pinterest.ca – easy sharing and collecting, but has many issues with theft
• swarmr.com – an exact tumblr clone down to the default images (??)
• twitter.com – allows posting both text and photos in sets, allows retweets

geared towards writers and bloggers

• archiveofourown.org – specializes in hosting fic, excellent tagging system
• dreamwidth.org – a blogging site similar to livejournal or wordpress
• fanfiction.net – another big name in fanfic posting
• livejournal.com – technically an option, likely unsafe for LGBTQ peeps
• mibba.com – for creative writers, centered around community feedback
• quotev.com – decent website for original / fan fic and fandom quizzes
• royalroad.com – hosts webnovels and other fanfic, nice dark theme
• wattpad.com – modern pretty fic site with direct links to irl publishers
• wordpress.com – old and well-established, often considered the default

geared towards artists and photographers

• artstation.com – excellent website for posting professional art portfolios
• behance.net – meant for professionals posting various visual media types
• deviantart.com – huge community, allows posting art + sorting into folders
• flickr.com – great community for photographers, can join groups
• furaffinity.net – similar to DA but for furries, easy to display commish info
• galleria.emotionflow.com – very similar to pixiv, with imo better tagging
• instagram.com – photo and video posts, excellent tag search
• newgrounds.com – an oldie but a goodie, allows a ton of media types
• piczel.tv – allows both streaming and posting art / photosets to a gallery
• pixiv.net – huge anime art community, allows livestreaming
• vero.co – app only, similar to insta but with MUCH more privacy control

chat or forum based

• aminoapps.com – community-based, has blogs + chat, custom themes
• discordapp.com – great chat app, text + voice, can join infinite servers
• reddit.com – literally a community for everything, SO MANY CAT PHOTOS

18+ only

• bdsmlr.com – microblogging + social media for people into kink
• blogr.xxx – a tumblr clone created specifically for sharing porn
• fetlife.com – considered one of the biggest kink communities online
• libertine.center – beautiful + modern site for posting irl nsfw and kink stuff
• thefetlibrary.com – for posting of erotic stories, replaces bdsmlibrary

paid platforms

• patreon.com – subscription-based access to many diff types of content
• typepad.com – similar to wordpress but with reblogging and a dash

up-and-coming platforms

• pillowfort.io – closed beta. should function almost identically to tumblr but with many many improvements
• poizen.me – development alpha. gorgeous website for artists to post art AND track comms
• this one’s still early in development but looks incredibly promising as a platform and super pretty to look at!! go snap up a username before all the good ones are taken! favouritism what’s that
• qink.co – pre-alpha. 18+ only. plans to be a kink-oriented replacement for tumblr.

defunct platforms

(so people will stop telling me i forgot them)

• jux.com – shut down in 2014 due to lack of funds
• shoandtell.me – now redirects to someone’s personal blog
• soup.io – more or less closed down this year due to GDPR issues

ways to save your current tumblr posts

• use the wayback machine! you do have to archive each page of your blog individually but once you do all the content, including media, will be saved exactly as it was at the moment you archived it.
• wordpress allows you to directly import whole tumblr blogs, and if i recall correctly it’s something both dreamwidth and pillowfort have said they are working on.
• tumblthree is a great tool with a ton of functions including downloading whole blogs, only posts tagged with a certain tag, all the posts you’ve liked, etc. etc. along with being able to download every type of media hosted on tumblr (pictures, videos, audio, everything). it also has a proper GUI so no computer knowledge required beyond downloading and running programs!
• if you have some knowledge of computers you can try this github solution which uses a python script to download your whole blog to your computer. even if you don’t know anything about programming or the command line they give a very good beginners tutorial on how to use it so you should still give it a shot!
• if that’s still a little daunting you can try soarcodes’ tumblr post that also has a decent tutorial!
• here’s another python script that should allow you to archive all the images from your blog or your likes, though it requires some knowledge of python and the command line or very very good google skills.

some notes

edit: please stop commenting on this post to self-promote your porn accounts on other sites. those replies / reblogs will be deleted or hidden.

please note that every site on this list will have pros and cons, and i haven’t listed them here since this post would be a mile long otherwise. please do your research before moving completely over to another site in case they have policies you disagree with.

also, because I see a lot of misinformed people ranting about this: deviantart does not own the art you post. some years ago hot topic stole a ton of art from DA and sold it on merchandise and people assumed that DA gave them permission to do it despite there being literally zero evidence for that claim. DA explictly states in their TOS that you retain copyright and sole license of the art you post.

and related, mastodon does not allow or condone CP or pedophilia. the people spreading this info are misinformed about what mastodon is. it is not an exact twitter clone; anyone anywhere can host a mastodon instance using their personal computer as a server, which means mastodon as a company can’t do jack shit to moderate them. what they DO is permanently block all users from every other instance from viewing or interacting with that instance, and add that instance to a publicly viewable list along with the reason for the block. please give their post about anti-abuse measures a read before making snap judgements.

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