Tag: ca:cw

“That line was an interesting moment. At the time, the choice I was making is that [Bucky] had realized there was no way he was getting out of there, and someone was gonna die, whether it was gonna be him, Steve or Tony. When he says that line, to me, it was a turning point
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he was, like, ‘Okay, I know what you want me to say, and I’m just gonna say it.’ When someone comes at you over and over again, and they can’t hear you, they can’t see you’re pleading with them, you’re trying to figure out how to get through to them and they just won’t accept it, at some point you just give in, and you go, ‘that’s right, that’s what you want.’ Of course [Bucky] didn’t remember them all.”
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Sebastian Stan
Wow. I had
honestly taken this statement at face value but if this is true then Bucky
lying about the extent of what he remembers isn’t an isolated incident, it becomes
a pattern, a strategy: Bucky intentionally
and deliberately using his memories, the only thing he truly owns at this
point, as a bargaining chip throughout the entire course of the movie to steer the
events if not in his favor, then at the very least toward what he considers an acceptable
outcome, namely sparing everyone else, and especially Steve, the pain of having
to deal with his shit. We talk a lot about Bucky’s lack of agency, but this right
here? This is him seizing and wielding the only tool at his disposal to exert
some influence on the narrative, despite having been left with almost no options.In
Bucharest, he lies to make Steve go away. He wants Steve to distrust him, to
give up on him, and the only way he can see of accomplishing that is to pretend
that there’s not a “Bucky” anymore. He tries to shut Steve out completely, tries
to not even look (and fails, but he’s only human) as Steve is escorted away from
the glass cage. When he’s alone with the alleged psychologist though, he has no
reason to think Steve’s listening and no reason to lie, so he tells the truth,
a truth that is very important to him, especially in the face of being once
again trapped and examined by people who look at him and see only a weapon: “my
name is Bucky”.Later, as
he wakes up with his arm trapped in the vice, he is hurt and disoriented and so
relieved when he sees Steve, that he can’t hide it. But it doesn’t matter,
because he quickly realizes that there’s no point in pretending anymore: Steve has
just done exactly what Bucky feared from the start: compromised himself for
Bucky in a way that he can’t take back. And Sam too. They made their choice, stupidly,
impossibly: they’re here for him. They need Bucky’s honesty now, or it will be
all for nothing. So Bucky gives it to them. He finally tells Steve that he
knows him, that he remembers him (the fact that it makes him so desperately
happy to be able to recite every trivial little detail, every hard won scrap of
memory that is a testament to how much Steve means to him, is made all the more
heartbreaking by the fact that he only does it because it’s become necessary). He
tells Steve and Sam about his encounter with Zemo, about the Siberian facility,
about the making and training of the other Winter Soldiers. The three of them
have a common objective now, a mission, and Bucky needs them, wants them, to
trust him.It’s clear that
Bucky put a lot of effort into stitching together all the bits and pieces of
memory he could dredge up. And he did a good job of it. Does he already
know that there are still things he’s missing? Or does he realize that only when he sees the
beginning of that video? Given how committed he is to record and preserve in
writing whatever comes back to him, does that realization make him feel like he’s
failed all over again those people he couldn’t even remember killing?Whatever the
answer, if we believe Sebastian’s words, in that moment up there Bucky is choosing
to lie again. Telling Tony what Tony wants to hear. Giving Tony the excuse Tony
clearly is looking for to just go ahead and murder him. He has reached the
conclusion that someone is going to die in that place, and he says what he
hopes will ensure that that someone will be him.
post-CA:CW drabble
(As close to fix-it fic as I’m likely to get.)
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Message in a Bottle
The first time it happens, none of them notice. It’s a pin from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, which doesn’t even use pins anymore, attached to the collar of one of the bad guys and Tony only makes a joke about the dude would’ve been better off in the Temple of Dendur. Tony hasn’t been to the Met apart from black tie galas in twenty-five years and Natasha’s never been. At least not legally. Peter goes “Wait, don’t they use stickers now?” but not loud enough to be heard.
The second time, it’s a subway token on top of a box of recovered gamma-irradiated bits and bobs in a lead case outside the Midtown South precinct house and Peter makes a joke about Indiana Jones and archaeology, but Natasha thinks… maybe. At least once one of the cops explains what the hell the thing is, since she’s never seen one and Tony’s never been on the subway. (“Really?” Peter asks, his voice breaking into a squeak.) There are a lot of NYC-based vigilantes these days, however, and Hell’s Kitchen is right next door to Midtown South and who knows which freak found this where.
The third time, it’s a page from a day planner and it’s Peter who gets it. And only Peter because he’s still maybe a little bitter that once upon a time, only the kids from Brooklyn and Queens got off for Brooklyn-Queens Day and he resents that the other three boroughs get to horn in. Sure, Staten Island can use the charity, maybe the Bronx, too, but Manhattan needs nothing and shouldn’t get anything. He swallows the last few words of that protest because the Widow looks at him like he’s talking in tongues.
Tony cloned the phone Steve gave him long ago. Burner phones are all well and good, but they’re like one-time-use pads from Steve’s war and he can do better. So he texts Steve and (a) says thanks for the assist and (b) asks if he’s close enough to come over for dinner if he’s going to be gift-wrapping bad guys on the regular. He doesn’t expect Steve to reply – Barnes stands between them and Tony isn’t fool enough to think that Steve will choose him at this late date.
Steve does reply, indirectly at least. It’s a trip uptown and a scary-looking dude named Luke Cage sitting in front of Grant’s Tomb with three idiots wrapped up like mummies with duct tape at his feet. “A good man said to give you this,” Cage says, handing Tony an envelope before walking – stalking – away.
In the envelope is a string of numbers on a slip of paper and Tony’s about to scan it for FRIDAY to decipher when he gets an idea. “If you were a kid from Brooklyn, what would this mean?” he asks Peter. Who manages to look outraged even under the mask. “I’m from Queens! Us outer borough folk aren’t interchangeable!”
But Peter takes it and and Tony gets a text later that night: “It means ‘we’ll be okay.’”
So good. So inside baseball NYC I’m tagging @cesperanza because yeah.
No, you move.
I haven’t seen almost anyone discuss this, and I think
it’s because it’s an incredibly disheartening conversation to have, if you care
about Bucky, and if you don’t, well none of it probably even registered for you.
Because the movie very pointedly doesn’t place any kind of relevance on Bucky’s
choices, except for his very last one, and yes, the one to punch his way out of
the cage to get away from Zemo and his little red book (which is, however,
overruled as soon as Zemo finishes reciting the sequence of words).But the truth is that Bucky does make choices, and I
mean outside of the two notable instances just cited. Only, he makes them
before the start of the movie, or in between one scene and the next, or quietly,
in the background, while the movie tells us to focus on the flashier things
that are happening in the forefront. And they’re not very noticeable choices,
per se, because most of the time, what Bucky chooses is to NOT act. Especially not in his own self interest.

Civil War AU where everything is the same except Cap wore a black suit. 😛 based on these concept arts from the CW art book. *u*
Markus&Mcfeely clarify their comments on Bucky’s ending
Interviewer: People were curious why Bucky had to be
punished.Stephen McFeely: I’ll address this. In our very first interview for Civil War, we sort of flippantly…. question came up in some way… We…
Christopher Markus: You, really…
Stephen McFeely: So… I… We don’t mean to say that Bucky deserves
to be punished… But I’ll say this. At the end of the movie, think about where we are. Tony Stark has just learned that his parents have been murdered. The
guy who did it is standing right there and one of his dear friends didn’t tell
him. It’s a dark ending it’s a melancholy ending, and it’s a bit ambiguous.
There’s no version of the next scene being Bucky happy, there’s no tag (?)
where Bucky gets to live a happy life, when that is how the movie ended. So,
that would be a little tone deaf.That said, Bucky is absolutely a victim and Bucky, if he went to the court of law, he would be innocent of all charges…
Christopher Markus: At the very least he’s probably guilty of
manslaughter, in some way…Stephen McFeely: But I think, I did a little homework on
this, I think it would be debatable. It’s debatable. But the point is, that we
the audience forgive Bucky because we know what exactly happened. I’m not
positive it’s that easy for Bucky to forgive himself. Bucky, you know, he said
on the quinjet, Steve tried to forgive him, but he said: “Yeah, but I did
it”. And he remembers all of them. So I’ve always thought that the story
of Bucky coming to have a happier life or better perspective on his terrible
century, is going to take a while. And my hope is that he can forgive himself
and that he can come to a good place, but I bet you that’s money on – not that easy. XTHIS IS EXACTLY what I kept trying to say. This is what they MEANT, they just said it terribly. Thank you for clarifying, you guys.
things tony stank thought he did: that
things tony stank actually did:
i’m all for the don’t-hold-a-grudge message of civil war but i do not think tony “feels entitled to take the life of an innocent human being to satisfy his own anger” stark deserved steve apologising for lying
tony “claims the moral high ground vis-a-vis the accords despite the fact that he broke the agreement the moment he didn’t like his new boss’s decision” stark
tony “holds bucky responsible for the winter solder’s crimes even though he was literally brainwashed while simultaneously feeling like his own tragic backstory is a good enough excuse to commit murder” stark
tony “beats steve to a pulp for having the nerve not to take his side in the fight when he’s genuinely trying to murder bucky even though he’s told that bucky is innocent” stark
and i’m supposed to believe that steve looked at everything that tony did and went maybe i should apologise for lying to him. that was the real problem here. attempted murder and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon are just water under the bridge
I chose to see it as Steve making amends for his own conscience regardless of Tony’s actions. After all, just like Wanda says earlier in the movie ‘I can do nothing about their fear, I can only control my own’, I think that Steve is being accountable for his own actions.
That’s just me tho.










