For anyone getting their knickers in a twist over Steve’s AOU line about “language,” just remember:
Bucky Barnes
had the world’s
biggest
potty
mouth
…And Steve was the one calling him out on it half the time.
So even if Steve Rogers does occasionally curse (and I’m not saying he wouldn’t – he grew up in Brooklyn and he was a soldier, it stands to reason he knew how), as an officer he was responsible for keeping his men reasonably respectable, and likely got into the habit of playfully chiding Bucky about his foul language.
So when Steve says “it just slipped out” – he probably forgot for a moment, in the heat of battle in winter in Europe, that he wasn’t in occupied France with the commandos, and it wasn’t Bucky cussing on the radio.
This isn’t Steve with a stick up his ass. This is Steve right out of the comics, still ridden with PTSD and occasionally forgetting which theater of war he’s in, slipping into the comfort of teasing his best friend.
I hate in the MCU or anything when the aliens or whatever are attacking and everyone’s just ‘oh yeah we be chilling just cowering over here’ as if seventy percent of humanity isn’t really angry all the time like catch these hands motherfucker I’ve bitten people for trying to steal my chips you think you can just steal my whole fucking planet YEET HERE COME MY TEETH film people be using responses to natural disasters but I promise if human sized things came to throw down humanity would be ready to fuck them up like yeah you got laser guns I got this dope ass stick I just found let’s go you ugly fuck
silentwalrus1: #yeah bicht!!!!!!#gimme the battle of new york with fuckin chitauri comin down and the shift manager of the times sq H&M has finally had Enough#Tracie bout to kill this alien with a traffic cone#’ JUST PRETEND THEY’RE TOURISTS’ she screams choking out goddamn Lizard Lite with her lanyard#10 feet away a park slope mom is beating an alien to death with her four year old’s knockoff eco friendly razr scooter#every single retail employee gets ten years’ worth of therapy in one day#captain america’s kill count: 83 aliens#kathleen from accounting: 94 and also her boss
Humans are biolent, angry little creatures who live under a constant state of stress and have very little sense of self preservation. #whatsmykillcount would be trending in Twitter while people posted videos on every available platform. Like honestly Earth is not the one.
You never know you’re from a Death World until somebody tries to conquer it.
Artist Paul Renaud’s variant for the upcoming Captain America #1 by Ta-Nehisi Coates, featuring within the cover, cover art by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon.
Bucky’s cat ‘Alpine’ in a new Bucky comic book!
We need more Winter soldier & his cat stories… not only in the comic book but also in mcu drama or movies!
– A former Republican politican makes a comic turning an anti-Nazi icon (and another Jewish/Roma hero) into Nazi anologues: Years long run and the largest Marvel event since the reboot with millions of dollars in advertising
Black creators make an all black team made up of the most prominent Black super heroes of all time: two-issues, zero advertising
I just heard about this last month I was looking forward to reading it
So I don’t really follow comics at all but after reading the article it sounds like
This comic is still going to it’s 6th issue
If you want to show Marvel where it can shove it’s decision making, put the 3.99 you can’t spend in good conscience on Captain America towards the remaining four issues of this. They’ll either have to go back on this desicion or stand by it and look transparent as fuck.
I was wondering when a soldier was going to chime in on this whole mess…
I live in San Diego, California. A huge military city. And Cap is extraordinarily popular here. You can’t walk through Balboa Park without seeing at least a dozen Cap shirts. I’m not kidding. My daughter and I make a game out of counting them, whenever we’re out and about, something we started last year during SDCC to kill the time as my husband went through the Ash vs. the Evil Dead cabin line ten dozen times with the hopes of winning a t-shirt (we kept getting bottle openers and drink koozies – it was a raffle type thing).
Moreover my father was Air Force, my uncle, Marines. My uncle, a purple heart recipient now in his 80′s, is a huge Cap fan. So much of what the author of this article is discussing, how Marvel making Steve a Nazi effects the morale of soldiers, is so, so on-point and it’s a perspective that hasn’t been discussed too much yet. What the author of this article points out I’ve spoken about, at length, with my military friends who are also Cap fans. All of what he expresses here is an accurate representation of the overall sentiment.
Excerpt:
Full disclosure: I’m well-known in my circle for my deep love of Captain America. I loved Cap when I was a kid and his main appeal was the cool costume and shield. In my Army days, I would tag along on trips to the main base in hopes that one of the new cheesy-but-awesome special military edition Marvel comics was out. When the MCU got to Winter Soldier, I fell in love all over again from the way they portrayed Cap: torn between loyalties, faithful to his country but uneasy at the direction it’s taking and no longer sure what’s wrong or right.
A lot of my fellow veterans feel the same way. We feel this way because to us – to the military and to veterans – Captain America is one of us. Steven Grant Rogers is a symbol of every soldier who gives their all to a government that plays fast and loose with that loyalty.
You’ve taken Steve away from the vets, Marvel. Are you freakin proud of yourselves?! One thing they had to cling to, one thing they had to identify with and you took him from them (and after giving him to them with your special edition military Cap comics for years).
What’s more, the author of this article went to C2E2 to call Spencer out on this mess, and these were the types of comments he received…
I brought my concerns up at the C2E2 Secret Empire panel. Everyone hurried to reassure me that that wasn’t the intent. Nick Lowe, who is a sunshiney dude you could easily picture hanging out with on Read Comics In Public Day, told me his grandfather was a Vietnam veteran. Margaret Stohl explained at length about how offending veterans wasn’t the point and how it was about the growth of the character that mattered. Everyone swore the payoff in the end is worth it. Nick Spencer came in with a pointed statement along the lines of, “This isn’t Cap’s fault. There was nothing he could to do prevent this, he had no choice, it wasn’t his fault.”
That last part, spoken what felt like directly to me, actually made me feel better for a few minutes… until I sat on it for a while and realized that didn’t answer my problem. It was my problem. What Marvel meant to do doesn’t matter. What matters is that Captain America doesn’t have a choice. He’s a pawn, available for whoever wants to play with him and easily manipulated to do even the worst things in the name of his chief virtues. He is without autonomy in this arc. This is how people see soldiers – wind them up and they do whatever you want.
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